PDC'05 Sessions

Session abstract for my Atlas PDC session (PRS420), and a call for questions and discussion material for the panel session on the Microsoft Web Platform (PNL06)

Time sure flies fast, esp. with the approaching fast.

I've been busy getting our Atlas work to come together along with others on the team. Yesterday, I saw a presentation of a preliminary version full-blown app built using ASP.NET and Atlas. Seeing a real app makes the whole difference. The hope is to get the app online during PDC week, or shortly thereafter, so I am not going to talk about the app just yet. For my presentation, part 2 of the two atlas talks (PRS420, Thursday morning), I won't be able to build a complete end-to-end app, given the one hour slot. I'll be presenting an in-depth look at the Atlas framework from the perspective of using its extensibility aspects to build custom application scenarios, components in script and associated server controls etc. The following is the abstract from my slide deck which is more accurate than the online session description that was put together a long while ago:

This presentation takes an in-depth look at ASP.NET "Atlas" from the component developer’s perspective. The first half demonstrates extending the "Atlas" client script library to build classes, components, and controls that encapsulate UI logic, XMLHTTP-based data access, and provide support for imperative and declarative programming models. Next, the presentation explores enriching ASP.NET server controls and the server-based programming model with client-side functionality. Along the way, various script programming patterns, script debugging and related tools are demonstrated.

I also have some bonus content, that I am going to try and get to if time permits.

On Friday (early in the morning... 8:30am...), I'll be participating in the panel discussion on the overall Microsoft Web Platform as it spans from server to clients to tools (PNL06, I believe). I am hoping it will be a lively discussion. For that to happen, I'd love for folks to come forward with their questions, as well as comments and thoughts about what you are doing today in your applications, how you are using the Web Platform, what you'd like to see us deliver going forward. If you have questions you'd like to put forth, you can start doing so now - go ahead and post them as comments below, and we'll pick from them in addition to the ones coming from the live audience. Once the conference is over, I'll post our answers.

Posted on Wednesday, 9/7/2005 @ 6:40 PM


Comments

12 comments have been posted.

Manu

Posted on 9/8/2005 @ 12:22 AM
I'm curious to know what the browser's back button will do in a page when some async callbacks to the server have been made.

Ajith

Posted on 9/8/2005 @ 1:52 AM
Nikhil, you will be shipping this AJAX support with VS 2005 release?

Zubair.NET!

Posted on 9/8/2005 @ 3:28 AM
Wonder how Atlas deals with SEO issues?

Steve

Posted on 9/8/2005 @ 5:17 AM
Great news, I look forward to seeing your slide presentation

Eugenio Serrano (ASP.Net MVP)

Posted on 9/8/2005 @ 6:05 AM
Hi Nikhil !!
I am from Argentina. I was with you in Brasil (MVP Summit)

It sound great ! We will download a Altas preview after PDC ??

RichB

Posted on 9/8/2005 @ 8:21 AM
1) Following on from Manu's question, will you support both IFRAME AJAX as well as XmlHttpRequest AJAX?
2) Will you ship a JScript engine supporting better error checking (like the strict error checking which can be enabled in Firefox)?
3) Will you ship a ECMAScript compression tool?
4) If yes, will that compression tool work off the AST, or will it be a dumb RegEx-based tool?
5) Which form of ECMAScript class creation do you recommend (there are several ways)

Henry Stapp

Posted on 9/9/2005 @ 1:21 PM
Sounds great, I'll make a point of attending. BTW, I'm an L.A. local, and was thinking of setting up a dinner on Tuesday night for people into AJAX/ATLAS. Anyone up for Ethiopian food (it's good)?

-h

Zubair.NET!

Posted on 9/10/2005 @ 12:44 AM
Nikhil has been busy preparing some great ATLAS demos to show off at this year's PDC in LA. It looks like there is alot of new AJAX stuff coming up..............

Cal Kaddourah

Posted on 9/10/2005 @ 12:16 PM
Great work!! will it be available when VS2005 ships?

--cal

Alexander Popov

Posted on 9/20/2005 @ 1:51 AM
comments on atlas:

1. in LAB's not understood, can we create and register own script libraries ( not controls ), such as math, calculation utilities, and other?

2. why we need put scriptmanager on page manualy? why not register it by demand?

3. to many prerequisites need: add keys to web.config, create specific mastrepage... there is no more simple way?

4. Why DECLARATIVE WEB APP? it's ugly... does atlas provide alternative(traditional) programing model?



P.S.
we have own, similar library on ASP.NET 1.1, and have some expirience.

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